Is there anyone who actually knows anything, one says this while another says that , I myself have all but lost my life because of some greedy, lowlife corporate money whores who put profit above people .all I want is what I deserve . So please someone post the truth here , and stop the finger pointing and arguing just tell the truth as it actually is . For some of us this is how we get avandia news . Thank you for your time .

I got an email today and I was told that the Attorneys are still batteling through negotiationswith GSK to get claimants qualified for the settlements . Until this process is complete no offer letters will be sent out.

Sam, if you trying to understand what I have been saying, let me put it in straight talk. Your statement of June 18, the first sentence is wrong. FDA did not find GSK guilty of any thing. The FDA is not part of any court system. It is a dept within the federal gov’t. Only a court of law can find anybody guilty. FDA stand for Federal drug agency. If you can find a court in the fda, you will be the only one to do so. If you go back and read on what was really say between the fda and gsk, you will find that an agreement that gsk will only sell the drug to people who sign a form with the understanding with the “belief” that some people say that the drug causes Heart attack. This is and has been the biggest problem and why you have people always listening to “he said, she said.” Bottom line, Gsk has not been found guilty in any court of law “yet”, when it come to avandia. Now think about what I keep on saying. The law will always win. Not what is right.

Now that you are trying to figure what I am trying to say, Sam, Think about this. With corruption and greed, there is also a PR system that businesses show to get you to think that they are compassionate and understanding. This is what we must attack. Gsk does not want a large public out cry. The just news report, people must act. If people sit back and don’t question, business just continues on.

Sam, ha ha ha! Sam by that statement, you really don’t understand what I said. And Glenn, your wrong, I don’t know everything, but I still at my age, am not a shame to research and find out instead of listening to people saying things that they have no idea what some of them are saying. It is almost always he said, she said. Has I said the law will always win out, No matter the reason, the law always win out is because the people always forget what happen last week and the “business people” make big bucks on that alone. The current president campaign that he will stop american troops from going over seas, promise to tax evenly, correct the economic situation in the country. He has done nothing. Why, the powers that be stop him. Money and Lobbying is the name of the game. People have no clue the evil of business. This why nothing get done. Wait, I am sorry, he did do something. He got Bin Ladin. Why, Bin Ladin was interferring with the “power” to make money. Also, read Lynn’s posting of June 20. If that can’t help you try to understand what is really going on, than nothing will.

I read that Humama Medicare Advatages’ Lawuit was kicked out of court. That should be the last hurdle. Today I called the attorney’s off and she said that the defense is looking at files to determine payment. Somethings not right. Why would they offer the 109 million and then look at client files. Instead of Mid-summer as this lawyer claimed now they’re saying September. Every month they add a month. this will never be settled

Joe, if what you just wrote is what you believe. Going back and reading your old posts, why were you telling people to hold out for as much as they could, when you obviously knew they were going to settle for peanuts. I think you talk just to hear yourself, and anyone who takes your advice is crazy

Sam Take it from me Joe knows everthing Just ask him he’ll tell you.

Sam, If you want to believed that you have every right to say and think of what you want to think. If you read what Tom wrote, on June 5, Been there and done that. I retired, will just say, from “corporate america”. The law no matter what, will always have the final say. Not what is the right thing to do. What the law say. Sam, I think your old enough to understand this. Nothing will get done unless somebody pockets is line with “green”. They are many drug in Canada, Europe that are being used by people and helping the people from sickness. In this country, a lot of these drugs are ban and cannot be use. WHY? Come on Sam. Think logic, not emotional. This why people don’t understand what is really going on. You think you do, But if you could only imagine how corrupt the world system really is. This is about, Business tells government what to do, not government tells business what to do. This why we are in the middle east, protecting the business of producing oil, not in the name of freedom. Name of the game is “MONEY”. “LOBBYING”

Joe……….The FDA in this country found them guilty by severely restricting their product.. The equivalent to the FDA in many other countries found them guilty by removing their product altogether. Joe, you sound like a GSK lawyer trolling this forum trying to make them look good

Bill, I understand your anger, but the judge only went by the law. Nobody prove anything in a court of law that Gsk knew, or coverup or anything else for that matters. Trust me, do I believed that Gsk did these things. I sure do. But in a court of law what you or I think and for the rest of the gsk victims think does not matter. Remember, innocent until proven quilty. This has not happen.

The lawyers are making out pretty well no matter what, so you know they did not do much negotiating. The judge did a huge injustice to all letting this settle in groups, instead of all together as one. She should be ashamed of the huge injustice to all. I truly believed that justice would be served, and people would at least make out as well as the Vioxx claimants did, but people will be lucky if they get 10% of what the Vioxx people did. The way it is set up, most will not even get as much as reported in the article above this blog, not even close

I received my settlement papers in December 2010 and have not heard or received my award letter. i filed in 2007. It is taking too long. I’ve had to take a lawsuit loan just to make ends meet. My attorney said we would get the award letters in June and now they’re saying three more months. What is going on?

LaGina, You must not be intimidated by the lawyer. You must call and start asking questions. If the representive who answer the phone acts like you are a “bother” To bad for them. it is your law suit, not their. Let them know that you want to know what going on. Tell them that during all this time, not once did you received any up date. Tell them You are not happy with the services that they are providing. Remember, IT IS YOUR LAW SUIT NOT THEIRS.

Bob, you must go back to the hospital or to the doctor who took over the practice and get your medical records. By law they must give it to you. Let them know it is the law. They can charge you for the copies, pay it. Make sure you have all the records. You must try to remember every little detail that happen to. When you get the records if you don’t have a lawyer get one. Make sure the lawyer is a “malpractice” lawyer and not a civil or traffic or any other kind. “Malpractice.” Try to get this done asap. Gsk is trying to settle and are trying to put a time limit of when you can’t file anymore. Nobody can get the copies for you. you must go yourself with proof of who you are. Drive, run, crawl, I don’t care, get the copies. Good luck.

The “law firm” that I have has informed me late yesterday that they should be sending the “group files” out hopefully by the end of the month or very early July. The return of the “letters” was quicker than they thought. I ask if she can tell me what was the ratio of accepting against rejecting the offer, she was not allow to give that information out. She did say that so far The settlement offer for this “group” is moving forward. Gsk has not not made any statement to them about the offer. Base by what she said, I am guessing that nothing so far has change.

I sure wish some qualified person ior persons would weed this column so folks could get at the meat and potatoes without wasting time on nice but unnecessry information. Maybe some long winded times like me chould be edited down to the essenials. Bob, AB, MLs, MBA

Those reading my commet about may wish to to know that the referrring hospital has records showing that I need and had the quadruple bypass, and the health benedit plan Antheum knows what medicine they paid for, i think it was via MedCo. My MD at the time is deceased. Three years ago I had a defibrulatot implantedl so far from my cardiac electrician seem quite satisfied with no immediate change eminent, but the caricic plumber says the ticker is running at 2 5 % efficiency. i also havr COPD with OX at LPM. MD epects the ticker to eventually do me in, not the diabletes or COPD. Sure was glad it won’t be COPD; that can be pretty tough, I understand. I am in VA,w hile my lawyes are in PA & Ca and maybe NJ. Hope this helps somebody else; Bob

Have Type II Diabetes, Physician at the time is dead. Quadruple Bypass performed at Mary Washington Hospital in Fredericksburg, VA, in 2001, by referral from Fauquier County Hospital, Warrenton, VA, which now has all hte records. Had Antheum Federal Health Insurance plan (US Civil Service) from 1998 through 2003. Had a senond heart attach on June 5, 2011, which put me into ICU at Fauquier Hopspital. Hope this information helps somebody else. What’s next?

It is a shame that we the ones that have suffered the most have to wait to be compensated. GSK have made billions of dollars now they want to give us some change after our lives have been changed for the worse. I was 36 years old when I suffered a stroke and CHF. I have lost my vission in my left eye, and have had two bypass surgeries on my left leg. Two stents placed in my heart. Had to stop working at 38 years old and will be on disability for the rest of my life. So how do they compensate me for all the years I will not be able to earn the money I would have if not for avandia. My heart goes out to those who lost loved ones, but as a husband and father there is so many things I can’t do with my family that it haunts me. The justice system needs to be fixed so this won’t happen to others in the future.

I lost my daddy 5 yrs ago!and still waiting!!!!! But then I tell everyone it doesn’t matter what we get Lawyers will take it ALL, what little there is. I don’t care about the money but my mom is dealing with alot and her health is going andshe is busting her ass trying to survive at 60. Even worse our lawyers won’t contact us!!!!!!!

Tom, Thank you for your comment. Has you mention by reading all of the past posting, I have been trying to let the people know that nothing has been resolved. Most people have no understanding of how the real business world works. You make a buck screwing somebody. Save a buck by screwing somebody. Most people don’t see the inside of “corporate america”. People believe everything they read on the internet, papers, cable news. Most people again don’t understand when you read, hear, “according to source” is nothing more than he said, she heard etc,etc. “According to sources” is not a fact, but most people see it has a fact, instead of rumor.

Jesse, this really doesn’t mean anything. All it is that the state is sueing to collect the money lost that the state paid it state workers, it medicad, etc. It could help in that if the state brings in people to show the result of lab test.

This blog makes for a very interesting read and provides both hope and discouragement. It is my opinion that readers should take into account that much of the information is derived from data that is published for the general public to view. So far, to my knowledge none of the contributors have actually sat in on a hearing or meeting. Over the years there have been many settlements published but I have never seen ” yes we did receive our check for payment “. Joe who appears to very active researching this subject or anyone else for that matter please correct me if I made the wrong assumption.

Josh, first let say how sorry I am to hear about your mother. It is always hard to try to understand “MOM” is no longer around to help you, guide you, and smack you in the back of the head when you do something stupid. You never ready accept what happen, but you do learn to live with it. The question you ask is not ‘dumb”. There are no such thing has dumb questions, but there is such a thing has being dumb for not asking questions. I know that most people just think because there is death is concern, it is automatic that the settlement would be more. The problem with that is that there really is no answer to that. It varies from case to case. What was her physical condition before death. Was she healthy. Did it happen suddenly. These are some of the questions that will be use to try to place, I am sorry to say this, value. There is a point system that is being used that has questions like this and more. That is how it is determined. It is about 12 – 15 questions.

sms, it seems the state of Louisiana has filed its own lawsuit. http://dockets.justia.com/docket/pennsylvania/paedce/2:2011cv03521/419804/

SMS, Anybody who is still taking avandia is doing so at their own risk. My sister who has been taking avandia, believes that this drug is the greatest thing that happen since insulin. She has been taking it for the last 9-10 years. Yes, she sign off on it each time a prescription is giving. I told her many times she nuts. Also, guess what, she had a heart attack. She does not believe that the drug help cause her attack. I mean, go figure. She think I am trying to “Rip off the system”. There are many people out there who think how she does.

Glenn, all said was March. About 3 lines. If you want to play guessing game of what you said or give me a date posting you made. The medicare comment is one of the many stupid statements that you made.

they are still trolling for avandia users on tv here in louisiana

Joe, I lost my mother in 2008, and she was on Avandia for over 7 years. I’ve been told several times, that Avandia helped “spped up her death” and obviously contributed to it. Pardon me if i sound dumb here, but will people who have lost a loved one to death, get more $$$ than say a person who’s still living? Again, dumb question Im sure, just curious how they’re basing these payouts. Ive also read in several places, that the payouts are “on avg $45,000-$85,000” per client. is that for someone who has say, taken the drug for a shirt time, and doesnt have many health issues, as opposed to someone like my deceased mother? Also, My attny, seems like a good dude, but very vague on info. I keep hearing how all these cases will be settled by the end of the 2011 year, but, now, have been hearing that cases could still not be settled for another year? Im confused what to think/believe. Joe, thanks for your great info.

Joe who said any thing about medicare??? you were telling everyone how the funds were split up All I said was I said all that 3 months ago. Wow talk about only hearing what u want to hear.

Yes there are lawyers that will take your case now if you turn down the settlement. But if you need the money go for it. You could win are lose if you turn it down. I think we might get more since they pull avandia off market but some people will be able to get avandia it’s up to thier doctors and them. Then in some other drugs lawsuit cases acept a low lawsuit talk to the judge in their case and was able to get more money….

Bill, I understand what you are saying, but the “cold” fact is that the drug still has not been proven to cause any of the death or any health problems in a court of law. This is why the MDL did about face turn. The Penn Court decided that since this not been proven, it did not want to tie up the court system for “many” years debating if it did or didn’t cause death or health problems. It seem that the “experts” can’t agree with it’s finding. One side saying it increase health problems, the other side saying that having diabetic, health problems do increase. What am trying to say without hurting some people here, that death case will only get a few percentage more than a person who had a heart attack or stroke. The pay out is still base on a point system.

Glenn, here we go again. Go and research on what the medicare liens are. No settlement in the past did medicare rec’d payment on this type of a settlement. Not saying the law is not there. The law is there, but medicare will only request payment if the settlement has reach a certain amount of money in which the client will profit greatly from the lawsuit. It is a game that must be played by the lawyers to protect themselves. Example: A family sue a hospital for malpractice on the wrongful death of a family member, who is on medicare. Now, medicare is owed 65,000.00 from the hospital stay of the person who died. The lawsuit is won by the family of wrongful death and the court award them of 800,000.00. The law states that the lawyer has to get in touch, not the client, the lawyer, with medicare. For this kind of money, yes, medicare will request payment. For the lawsuit that we are talking is, by law , the same, but different. Now let just say that your on medicare, and your bill that you owe is 25000.00. Your settlement is 60,000.00. by the time your lawyer take his share, you get 37000.00 in you pocket. Now, if you owe medicare 25000.00, they will more than likely not request payment. The reason being is that the family that has a death and that person is no longer on medicare, it does have to worry about future medical claim and therefore will want payment, because of the amount of money won. But with you, you remain on medicare and will continue to have future medical bills that medicare take care of, you will need the money to help pay for the bill. Now here the game. Medicare looks like they are compassionate to have you believe that the lein is forgiven, but it is not. In future medical bills, medicare will inform you to make payments of the 20% that medicare does not pay with the money you rec’d from the settlement immediately. That is why the lawyer inform medicare the amount of the settlement against the liens. They’ll keep a record. This goes on all the time. It varies “greatly” from case to case. It also depends on you “earn” and “unearn” income. If you don’t know the different between the two, look that up also. And has far has you think that maybe I am suddenly “on the ball”. I have always been telling people to careful, research, ask questions, use logic. During all this time you, gary and some other folks on here was always telling me to shut up. Glenn, you are classic case of a person who will remember what he wants to remember, hears what he want to hear, and not what was said, and read what he want to read and not what you “red”. Now don’t forget to come back in another month to see how much “trouble” you can cause again.

The case I am talking about was supposed to start after the buford case. I can’t find it anywhere.

What happened to the 2nd case that was to start march 28 2011 I haven’t seen anything about it.does anyone know when california state courts are supposed to start hearing avandia cases

If there are any deaths in your group, all that will be left for the rest is enough to buy a nice dinner, and a movie. What a waste of time

Joe you are sure on the ball I said all that back in March in 3 Lines

Joan, GSK has been calling the shot for a long time. The reason is that, has it said in my letter from my lawyer, nobody has proven nothing in a court of law that avandia cause the medical problem. My lawyer inform me that there are many test that says avandia has cause increase in heart attacks by 33% to almost to 43%. Other test has shown that avandia no more increase in heart attack because being a diabetic, heart attack do increase. I am telling you this not because I believe it, the law, using logic, with no real proof, will win.

Marie, Go to your Doctor and get copies of your medical record. They have to give them to you, it the law. They may charge you for the copies, pay it. it is well worth it. I hate to inform you of this, but it won’t be the end of the year. My lawyer said by the time you sign settlement paper, your still looking at 6 to 18 months. Not having your medical records up to date can cost you up to almost 1/3 of your settlement.

My lawyer office has been telling me also that they need more medical records. They told me last year this time that I would have my settlement. Now they’re saying at the end of this year. I don’t know who to believe. I tried of waiting. I now have had a second stroke and have a disease to where I can have more strokes. I’m under 40 years old.

GSK IS CALL ALL THE SHOTS WE BE LUCKY IF WE GET A BIG WOPPER COUPON

Well folks, I got some “good” news and some “bad’ news. It seems that the pressure has been put on Gsk and the MDL. Settlement for a good number of cases have been finalizes. Letters are going out to various people infoming them of what the title of the letter/memo is call, “POTENTIAL AVANDIA SETTLEMENT”. In it, its will explain the terms of your settlement. Base on what type of lawsuit you have. Such has Product Liability, Personal Injury and so forth. Now the “bad” news.The letter will informed you that, even though some records show that avandia “seems” to increase heart Attacks and other “harm”, Other records show that it has not increase any more “harm’ being the fact that you are a diabetic and Heart attack are known to increase in people with a diabetic “problems”. It seems that GSK is taken advantage of this. It not been proving in any court that avandia alone cause the Heart attack or stroke or any problems that people have incurred. The various lawyers that are handling the cases will explain that because no one has proven Avandia cause your health problem, in court, the lawyer will advise you to except the offer. Now to explain the money breakdown. In each group it will varied differently from group to group. The money amount to the number of people within the group. One group could have 12 million and have 250 people, another group could have 7 million and have 300 people. This based on your lawyer negotiations. Within all the groups, the one thing that remains the same is that your settlement will be based on how much damage was done to each person. Now the next step is the amount of people who vote to except or reject and go to trial, which the lawyer will explain the dangers of a trial, will determine the settlement offer. Within each group, to have the settlement move forward, you must have a 90% approval. The other 10% will be place has potential trial cases. Since the 10% voted against the settlement, against the advisement of your lawyer, they will inform the people who voted not to settle to seek out new “counsel”. If the vote is 95% or more the 5% will have no choice but to except the offer. Now if the vote is under 90%, Gsk has the right to cancel any or all settlement offers. Now this all that I was “informed” over this past weekend.

HI my brother died from this great drug, I take care of my mother aunt ,now that he gone i have to do everything, well when he was here he could help me out alot. now my mother 85, my aunt 88 it real tuff going to work 9 hours a day coming home to do laundry take care off every i bin waiting 3 years they can stick 70,000 in there back side he was 56 i can sleep it really suck that they can make a drug to kill people nice

Joe, the news is hugely disappointing!! What everyone has been saying on here is true, and it is not good. They must have rushed everything through before the news broke about the FDA. It was also signed off by the MDL.

I believe the removal of Avandia from the market will speed things up greatly. They have no defense now whatsoever. How can you defend a drug that the FDA has deemed to dangerous to sell anymore.

Doug, The fact that the drug is just about taken off the market, does help that a trial will not take place. I think that this is all part of the “talk” that “might” be going on. I will go over and see “topix”. You said you gave false infor and it took. I’ll try it.

Screw, Call your doctor and ask them if they sent any of your medical records to your lawyer. If not, go to your doctor and get copies. They have to give them to you. it’s the law. They might charge you for the copies, so what, pay it. Has far as your lawyer saying two difference things, I believed that when your lawyer first told you that the case was “settled”, it was just to shut you up, and stop ‘bothering” them. Now that thing “might” be moving your lawyer never really look to see if they had all the paperwork, and now they find out that they don’t. Part of this is your fault and part your lawyer and your doctor. The problem is that you are not the first person this happen to and the sad fact, you won’t be the last. For months I have been telling people to be careful, research, ask questions. Don’t ask questions, nobody is going to volunteer to get out information that you might need.

Jon, Please take a easy on Diane. Did you stop to think that maybe she might of a medical problem. Calm down.

I am so confused about all this talk and posting . I have a lawyer in dallas texas , I live in ky. When I call them all the receptionist will do is let me talk to a young girl who reads from a prepared script . I am to the point of giving up . Is there anyone who knows anything that can be trusted ? Also could a person talk to Gsk themselves ? Does anyone have info on my lawyer ( cannot put name but starts with F and ends with X .