Wrongful Death Lawsuit Claims Harley-Davidson Throttle Defective
A wrongful death lawsuit has been filed in Texas, alleging that a malfunctioning electronic throttle on a Harley-Davidson motorcycle caused a fatal accident in 2008.
The Harley-Davidson lawsuit was filed in Tarrant County court by Cindy DeBartolo, whose husband, John, was killed on March 24, 2008 when he lost control of his 2008 FLHX Harley-Davidson days after repairs were supposedly made to address problems with the throttle. Cindy DeBartolo was also riding on the bike at the time of the crash and sustained serious injuries in the motorcycle accident as well.
According to the complaint, the electronic throttle malfunctioned on the motorcycle just a week after John DeBartolo purchased the Harley-Davidson bike on March 15, 2008 from Longhorn Harley-Davidson in Grand Prarie, Texas. He took the motorcycle back to the dealership for repair, and it was returned to him on March 22. The motorcycle accident lawsuit alleges that couple was riding the bike two days later when the electronic throttle failed again, causing the fatal crash.
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Learn MoreHarley-Davidson Motor Company, Inc. and LHD Partners L.P., doing business as Longhorn Harley-Davidson, are named as defendants in the lawsuit. DeBartolo alleges that the motorcycle was defectively manufactured and unreasonably dangerous, and that the dealership failed to properly repair the electronic throttle.
In December 2009, Harley-Davidson issued an unrelated recall for more than 111,000 family touring motorcycles due to fuel tanks that could leak or catch fire after a crash. The Harley-Davidson motorcycle recall affects 22 different models of 2009 and 2010 Harley-Davidson Touring, CVO and Trike motorcycles, which were manufactured between June 6, 2008 and November 19, 2009.
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76 Comments
JamesSeptember 11, 2021 at 12:05 am
I have a 2013 Road glide custom FLTRX with the 103 motor flyby throttle all kind of codes coming up only relating to throttle response po120 po 123 po220 po223 po1511 po2135 po2176. And HARLEY-DAVIDSON TOLD ME THESE CODE ARE FOR PART PN67261-08 po6892007 po674590-4c throttle.moved wires around on the throttlebody and that the engine light off so I made it home. but light and codes came back cam[Show More]I have a 2013 Road glide custom FLTRX with the 103 motor flyby throttle all kind of codes coming up only relating to throttle response po120 po 123 po220 po223 po1511 po2135 po2176. And HARLEY-DAVIDSON TOLD ME THESE CODE ARE FOR PART PN67261-08 po6892007 po674590-4c throttle.moved wires around on the throttlebody and that the engine light off so I made it home. but light and codes came back came back again I can’t even clear calls now Harley Davidson want me to bring it here and they want $140 an hour
ThomasJuly 10, 2021 at 2:45 am
All these cheapo cheapo slave labor manufactured components from Red China because Harley is too cheap and cares NOTHING for rider safety. Sue the hell outta them and let them go out of business!!!!!
RahnJuly 10, 2019 at 2:02 am
2009 ultra classic same problem in shop 5 months not fixed defaulted 3 more times stranded twice this is going to kill people
CharlesAugust 15, 2018 at 10:08 pm
08 FLHRC and nearly got broadsided today trying to cross straight to a third lane from a parking lot. Traffic locked up their brakes, thankfully, when the bike left me as a sitting duck with a limp throttle. Had to limp it 25-miles home. It is a disaster waiting to happen. I reset the ECM with zero positive results. Usually this bike idles high and can be reset by the on-off key procedure. Now it'[Show More]08 FLHRC and nearly got broadsided today trying to cross straight to a third lane from a parking lot. Traffic locked up their brakes, thankfully, when the bike left me as a sitting duck with a limp throttle. Had to limp it 25-miles home. It is a disaster waiting to happen. I reset the ECM with zero positive results. Usually this bike idles high and can be reset by the on-off key procedure. Now it's got the much more serious problem with the "Limp Throttle" syndrome. HD should be held accountable. This is some serious stuff.
RosannaJuly 22, 2017 at 11:50 pm
Same trouble with my 08 Street Glide for 2 years now. Had the entire front not wiring replaced and no better. I can feel the power disappear from under my hand and then no throttle response. I have discovered that turning the bike off and on again helps me to get it working. Harley dealer can find nothing wrong and offed to charge me another $100. to look at it again.
RicoJune 18, 2017 at 5:53 pm
I have a 2012 road king and I have taken it to the dealer 3 separate times. I have $1000 into their diagnostic research, They replaced the ECM terminals, tested it with a brand new ECM, speed sensor, twisted grip sensor. They replaced pins at the ECM connection. Now they want to replace my entire wiring harness for $1600. I took the bike back and am going to an independent mechanic to see if they [Show More]I have a 2012 road king and I have taken it to the dealer 3 separate times. I have $1000 into their diagnostic research, They replaced the ECM terminals, tested it with a brand new ECM, speed sensor, twisted grip sensor. They replaced pins at the ECM connection. Now they want to replace my entire wiring harness for $1600. I took the bike back and am going to an independent mechanic to see if they can shed any light. Once i get a reply back I'll post this. So far after reading all the posts, I see lots of people listing the problems but no one has listed what the solution is!!! or if they ever got it fixed!!
RobertJanuary 25, 2017 at 2:50 am
I just went through my 2010 Street Glide's 35K checkup. Riding from Orlando to Daytona Beach. I lost power as the Engine light came on and the bike went into Limp/Idle mode halfway there. This totally scared the female passenger on the back of my bike. The local Harley Davidson Shop Reset the codes, cleaned and repaired the Throttle body wires. The next time I took the bike out, I didn't ge[Show More]I just went through my 2010 Street Glide's 35K checkup. Riding from Orlando to Daytona Beach. I lost power as the Engine light came on and the bike went into Limp/Idle mode halfway there. This totally scared the female passenger on the back of my bike. The local Harley Davidson Shop Reset the codes, cleaned and repaired the Throttle body wires. The next time I took the bike out, I didn't get in six miles, and it failed the same way again. The Engine light came on and the bike went into Limp/Idle mode. I took it back to Harley. They reset the codes, check the throttle codes and replaced the contacts and the throttle body. It lasted a few weeks, but I wasn't doing any distance riding. My first attempt at a distance ride, at thirty miles into my ride, the Engine light came on and the bike went into Limp/Idle mode again. For the third time, I had to limp the bike back home, never going above thirty miles an hour. This weekend, I'm taking it back to a different HD dealership. The original HD repair shop is closed/retired. If the same failure returns, I will be pissed. I can't go on any rides with friends out of fear the bike will break down on me during the ride. Definitely no passengers!
JimSeptember 12, 2016 at 1:46 am
Same thing with my 2011 Street Glide only 6k miles. On the interstate the other day and was passing a semi when the thing lost ALL power and went to limp/idle mode!!!!!!! Of course you call Harley and they are no help at all. Buy a $23k bike and they won't even talk to you without charging you first. Iconic company that is only interested in the money. This is my fifth Harley and my last. Ha[Show More]Same thing with my 2011 Street Glide only 6k miles. On the interstate the other day and was passing a semi when the thing lost ALL power and went to limp/idle mode!!!!!!! Of course you call Harley and they are no help at all. Buy a $23k bike and they won't even talk to you without charging you first. Iconic company that is only interested in the money. This is my fifth Harley and my last. Harley Davidson is going to get someone killed with equipment like this!
KevinAugust 12, 2016 at 11:00 pm
Hey biker friends Kevin here from Moore Oklahoma,yes my dam 2012 street glide is leaving me in some dangerous intersections lately too,check engine light flashes ,then stolls and leaves me dead in the water,i talked to Harley shop in Moore and off course all they want is money,i think I'm going to change throttle actuator my self its making noises and hoping this fixes it,i checked pins and put s[Show More]Hey biker friends Kevin here from Moore Oklahoma,yes my dam 2012 street glide is leaving me in some dangerous intersections lately too,check engine light flashes ,then stolls and leaves me dead in the water,i talked to Harley shop in Moore and off course all they want is money,i think I'm going to change throttle actuator my self its making noises and hoping this fixes it,i checked pins and put some degreasing silicone on plug but no help,anyone change actuator out on there own,looks pretty easy any suggestions ,thanks..
AdrianAugust 5, 2016 at 12:03 am
I have an 2010 fltrx custom that i changed into a 2012 fltrxcus CVO. No problems till now on a road trip from IE to San Francisco sputtered a few times never limp mode, get on throttle and goes like no other. Comming home same thing but never limp mode. My friend said check connector on TB, common issue as noted by others so I will update later.
GaryJune 9, 2016 at 7:22 pm
Harley is a company without a conscience or shame. My 2010 Ultra Classic has nearly gotten me killed twice in traffic at speed going into limp mode. (P1511). Harley refuses to help other than to say go to the dealer. It's been to the dealer and they gave it back to me. Gone to limp mode 4 times since I got it back. Not about to go back to the dealer as they are the ones that gave it back to me[Show More]Harley is a company without a conscience or shame. My 2010 Ultra Classic has nearly gotten me killed twice in traffic at speed going into limp mode. (P1511). Harley refuses to help other than to say go to the dealer. It's been to the dealer and they gave it back to me. Gone to limp mode 4 times since I got it back. Not about to go back to the dealer as they are the ones that gave it back to me not fixed. They clearly don't care about safety. I'm done with the garbage that is Harley Davidson. Not only do they build an unsafe product they don't care who they kill over their defective engineering. Throttle by wire is a complete disaster.
BruceMay 22, 2016 at 2:48 am
09 road king classic throttle went to limp twice in 2 years, shut the bike off and restarted it and everything was fine. The shits when you have no throttle in traffic. My lawyer and my kids know who to sue if i die because of harleys lack of responsibility. Just changed out the compensator another harley mess.
RobertOctober 23, 2015 at 12:23 pm
I also bought a 2008 streetglide and had the exact same problem. I have had a total of 4 throttle control modulators installed by a reputable Harley dealership and the problems persists. That last time it was replaced with a new one from the factory it went into limp mode less than a mile away from the dealership. The mechanics are good and know what they are doing, but apparently the problems [Show More]I also bought a 2008 streetglide and had the exact same problem. I have had a total of 4 throttle control modulators installed by a reputable Harley dealership and the problems persists. That last time it was replaced with a new one from the factory it went into limp mode less than a mile away from the dealership. The mechanics are good and know what they are doing, but apparently the problems lies with the faulty system itself. We all need to unitedly do something about it rather than post our displeasure and do nothing.
ChrisSeptember 13, 2015 at 1:46 pm
I have an 09 ultra classic. Bought it used a year ago. It had 22,000 miles. For the year I owned it, it ran great with no problems. Then, cruise control started cutting out, clutch basket went to crap and was replaced. But no problems associated with limp home or full on lock. May3rd, 2015 throttle went to full lock coming out of a hairpin. Bad crash as a result. Had Harley look at bike a couple o[Show More]I have an 09 ultra classic. Bought it used a year ago. It had 22,000 miles. For the year I owned it, it ran great with no problems. Then, cruise control started cutting out, clutch basket went to crap and was replaced. But no problems associated with limp home or full on lock. May3rd, 2015 throttle went to full lock coming out of a hairpin. Bad crash as a result. Had Harley look at bike a couple of days ago. No issues found with throttle control, ECM, or throttle body. Had an independent expert there with factory engineers to keep all parties honest. Very disappointed that there is no data showing an issue with the bike. Have 2 witnesses that saw what happened, but they are hanging it on rider error or an intermittent surge that is undetectable. Wish they were able to get data that would keep Harley feet to the fire.
RonSeptember 9, 2015 at 12:29 am
Bought an 08 Ultra Classic used a few years ago.25000 miles on it now having same issue. Has happened in traffic, close call. I'm afraid to ride it now. It is my ride to work. Something needs to be done. I'm ready to trade for something other than HD.
DonSeptember 2, 2015 at 5:52 pm
I bought a 2008 street Glide used last year no problems this year took seat off put air in shocks put seat back on started next morning no throttle took seat off put back on no problems. Then it started to idle at about 20000 then would idle down 50 miles later limp mode has gone into limp mode 3 more time since then with out a doubt this is a harley defect
JamesJuly 25, 2015 at 7:14 am
Have a 2008 road king classic throttle stops working and check engine light comes on. Have to shut off bike let it sit comes and goes..
chadJuly 14, 2015 at 10:23 pm
Just had mine go out on my 2010 Ultra Limited. After waiting for road side assistance for 2 hours, I started it up and it worked for about 20 minutes until I was on Hwy 94 outside of Milwaukee and it went limp. I had to cut across speedy traffic almost getting run off by a semi. Waited another hour and started again, and drove 10 miles, in 3rd gear, at 25 miles per hour on the shoulder, so dang[Show More]Just had mine go out on my 2010 Ultra Limited. After waiting for road side assistance for 2 hours, I started it up and it worked for about 20 minutes until I was on Hwy 94 outside of Milwaukee and it went limp. I had to cut across speedy traffic almost getting run off by a semi. Waited another hour and started again, and drove 10 miles, in 3rd gear, at 25 miles per hour on the shoulder, so dangerous. Dealer, Milwaukee Harley, got the bike and said this happens all the time with 09-10 Flh's. I do not want to pay 1000 bucks for throttle body or sensors. I don't know how to start a lawsuit. but I was lucky it happened yesterday and not on the dragon's tail this weekend in Tennessee. This is complete bull, and it scares me to get back on this bike, which I had just had the 15k mile tune up in May 2015 ( 1500bucks only). Please respond if you know how to get a lawsuit going.
RobertJuly 7, 2015 at 1:18 am
I bought a 2008 ultra 1 year ago and have have nothing but trouble with the same issues. Finnaly took it to a dealer here in Indianapolis. They have worked on it for a week now and still claim they dont't know why it's going into limp mode. They replaced the ECM, showed me it had a broken pin. Put in a new one $450. Still getting the codes. Now they are telling me I need a new throttle body $550. [Show More]I bought a 2008 ultra 1 year ago and have have nothing but trouble with the same issues. Finnaly took it to a dealer here in Indianapolis. They have worked on it for a week now and still claim they dont't know why it's going into limp mode. They replaced the ECM, showed me it had a broken pin. Put in a new one $450. Still getting the codes. Now they are telling me I need a new throttle body $550. They told me Harley will not stand behind this problem. I think something should be done. Maybe people should contact 60 minutes or Dateline!!!!! Thoroughly PISSED...
LOUISJune 25, 2015 at 3:57 pm
Was on the highway with my little 10 year old girl when the throttle lost power on the outside lane doing 70 surrounded by cars and trucks had to make my way luckily past traffic could have got killed me and my daughter so disappointed in Harley less than 10000 miles on bike now they say they could take a look at it for 80 dollars an hour plus parts they know there's a problem I'm just so glad we [Show More]Was on the highway with my little 10 year old girl when the throttle lost power on the outside lane doing 70 surrounded by cars and trucks had to make my way luckily past traffic could have got killed me and my daughter so disappointed in Harley less than 10000 miles on bike now they say they could take a look at it for 80 dollars an hour plus parts they know there's a problem I'm just so glad we didn't get killed seriously thinking of trading it in for an Indian
JoeJune 10, 2015 at 1:21 am
2010 street glide no throttle problem like 10 times just got it like 6 days ago and I know I got it used but come on man at least fix it before I sue the S O B 'S this is really pissing me off big time they said bring it in so they can soon what it up but I know they are goingto charge me for it
sendyMay 10, 2015 at 5:12 pm
Mengapa troble p 1511 and p 2135 sering muncul ? Untl ultra classic 2008
John rMay 10, 2015 at 3:21 am
My 2013 street glide had the same throttle problem.. I called he dealership where I purchased it.. the service dept flat ass lied to me saying they haven't heard of such problem.. yet it's all over the internet.. then they told me my warranty expired 4 days ago.. so I was out on my own.. I have purchased 4 brand new hd's since 1973..and am . Still waiting for them to ever fix anything that has e[Show More]My 2013 street glide had the same throttle problem.. I called he dealership where I purchased it.. the service dept flat ass lied to me saying they haven't heard of such problem.. yet it's all over the internet.. then they told me my warranty expired 4 days ago.. so I was out on my own.. I have purchased 4 brand new hd's since 1973..and am . Still waiting for them to ever fix anything that has ever gone wrong.. they are bullshit..I got tired of sitting on the road side for hours then finally called my buddy who ownes a shop in monterey. he found and fixed the problem in 2 hours.. it was a filthy green wire connector located in the handle bar behind the throttle.. Harley is probably denying knowledge of the throttle problem to avoid paying a lawsuit... they suck...
KenMay 7, 2015 at 4:12 am
08 ultra only had 1no throttle incident no danger but could have been now check engine light not wanting to start shut ignition off then on starts took to dealer $100 to diagnose 200 to replace twist grip censer hopefully that will take care of issue sounds like I'm not alone on thinking this should be a recall issue
TIMApril 17, 2015 at 4:41 pm
I have an 08 Streetglide with 40,000 miles bought the bike new last weekend riding in a pack of 6 bikes @80mph loss throttle bike was still running but no throttle. Pulled over and got the code to reset. Same group was at the 100th in Mil and one of the other bikes had same problem limped his bike to dealer after spending all day at dealer because they didn't know how to fix problem they called [Show More]I have an 08 Streetglide with 40,000 miles bought the bike new last weekend riding in a pack of 6 bikes @80mph loss throttle bike was still running but no throttle. Pulled over and got the code to reset. Same group was at the 100th in Mil and one of the other bikes had same problem limped his bike to dealer after spending all day at dealer because they didn't know how to fix problem they called Harley and was told they [Harley] knew of problem but no service recall was issued. They said it was a fix on fail problem.But called local dealership and asked about it today they know nothing about it. They told me they could fix it for $350.00. I can replace pins a lot cheaper myself. If Harley knows they have a problem they should step up and acknowledge it
TimMarch 11, 2015 at 1:21 pm
2014 Harley Davidson ultra limited 2k miles Purchased new November 2014 I have had intermitting problems with limp mode 12 times. Codes P1511, P0641 every time. Has been at the dealership 4 times! It is at the dealership now! Each time this bike has went into limp mode. I was lucky to get out of traffic. However, it has been some close calls!. Especially setting on the side of the road at nig[Show More]2014 Harley Davidson ultra limited 2k miles Purchased new November 2014 I have had intermitting problems with limp mode 12 times. Codes P1511, P0641 every time. Has been at the dealership 4 times! It is at the dealership now! Each time this bike has went into limp mode. I was lucky to get out of traffic. However, it has been some close calls!. Especially setting on the side of the road at night time! I have learned how to go into diagnostics to clear the codes. So that I can restart the bike. Also made a video of the last time this bike went into limp mode. Anyone one with any suggestions? As the 2007 Street Glide I traded in never gave me any problems. Regret trading that bike in!
davidFebruary 9, 2015 at 12:43 am
2010 roadking classic, bought the bike in 2012, started having problems around 15000 miles on bike. When I would turn the handle bars the motor would rev up just for a second. Then on a day trip I get a check engine light and have no cruise control. I cleared the codes and it ran good for a month and then back to the same old shit.
BobNovember 11, 2014 at 3:53 pm
I spent this entire summer dealing with this issue. WTF!!! I can't even enjoy my rides anymore because I never know when my $35,000 motorcycle is going to just die on me. I was is western Massachusetts heading up a steep incline, as I came to a hairpin turn my bike went into limp mode and I was almost killed by the car following behind me. I had to pull off the road, but it could not have been a m[Show More]I spent this entire summer dealing with this issue. WTF!!! I can't even enjoy my rides anymore because I never know when my $35,000 motorcycle is going to just die on me. I was is western Massachusetts heading up a steep incline, as I came to a hairpin turn my bike went into limp mode and I was almost killed by the car following behind me. I had to pull off the road, but it could not have been a more dangerous spot to stop. I very easily could have died that day, and it's something that was out of my control. It has happened 7-8 times this year, and I have taken apart every electrical connection and cleaned them, and then put dialectic grease, but it still continues to happen. I'm at the point where I need to just replace parts one by one until I find the right one. TPs sensor, Twist grip sensor, and ECM are all possible culprits, so this can get very expensive, but I don't trust the dealers, and this is probably exactly what they will do to fix it anyway! Harley Davidson needs to be careful on this one, because this is an issue that can really change the way people view their product. They may not feel it right away, but as the 20 year old kids today that cannot afford these bikes constantly hear these horror stories do you think they will be willing to shell out their money 10-15 years from now when they have families of their own? I doubt it. The bad boy image only goes so far, since most of the "Bad-Ass" men who buy these bikes are not interested in dying on them! I love my bike, and I realize the dangers involved in riding, but the fact that the bike itself may kill you is totally unacceptable to me!!
RocknRAugust 10, 2014 at 11:58 pm
2011 SG bought used from Harley shop here with 5,000 miles. Now about 10,000 miles. Can someone try this and see if they can duplicate it as I can? Turn ignition to accessories. Radio on, leave in this position for about 15 seconds then rapidly turn switch to ignition on. I can duplicate the limp mode in this manner. Not every time but enough to see there's a problem. I'm thinking a spike voltage[Show More]2011 SG bought used from Harley shop here with 5,000 miles. Now about 10,000 miles. Can someone try this and see if they can duplicate it as I can? Turn ignition to accessories. Radio on, leave in this position for about 15 seconds then rapidly turn switch to ignition on. I can duplicate the limp mode in this manner. Not every time but enough to see there's a problem. I'm thinking a spike voltage back to the TBW circuit causing it to see the base reference voltage so high so when the voltage drops to the 5vdc its reference is so high the sensors will never be able to send the signal for throttle on without recalibrating by shutting off the ignition. I hope that made some sense. If anyone can duplicate the limp mode as I can it'll help to fix this problem. If Harley can't then enough of us engineers working together should be able too...
ChadJuly 26, 2014 at 2:39 am
My 08SG was totaled in an accident, not my fault and inherited 12 staples in my melon and road rash! So I purchased a 2010 Ultra Classic with 9900ml. At 10500 miles engine light comes on. Stop and get fuel in Golden CO before going up to Blackhawk. Get on highway and bang, loss of throttle and of course semi behind me. Able to pull over safely and decided to look at phone for answers. I was able [Show More]My 08SG was totaled in an accident, not my fault and inherited 12 staples in my melon and road rash! So I purchased a 2010 Ultra Classic with 9900ml. At 10500 miles engine light comes on. Stop and get fuel in Golden CO before going up to Blackhawk. Get on highway and bang, loss of throttle and of course semi behind me. Able to pull over safely and decided to look at phone for answers. I was able to pull the code P0220...throttle sensor. Reset and carried on up the mountain. Engine light again, WTH! RESET...Rode to Blackhawk, horrible performance and still engine light. Parked over night and left for eastern Colorado. No engine light for 60 miles and here we go again! Easy fix??? Help anyone?
jim cJuly 22, 2014 at 5:05 pm
2013 Triglide. Loss of throttle when cornering. Told dealer when I put in storage last fall. Said they had heard of problem. Said they fixed it. Took out this summer and it happened again in a round a bout. Caused accident. Any other trike owners have problem ?
ScottJune 25, 2014 at 2:09 am
2010 ultra 25,000 miles just had it happen to me this weekend! After reading this im scared to death of it. HD needs to address or the company is going to have alot of dead people on their hands!
BillJune 24, 2014 at 12:41 am
2010 Ultra with 59,500 miles. Check engine light came on and bike went into limp mode. Trouble is no code shows up. At the bike shop it started and ran fine until the engine warmed up. The check engine light came on and it went into limp mode. Mechanic plugged in his scanner and it still showed no code -- even with the bike running and the check engine light on. Any ideas?
danJune 20, 2014 at 1:55 am
14000 miles same problem,limp throttle shut ignition off and started right up, dealer tells me throttle pins we will look after u asap 10 days ago , service sucks even when it was new ,pretty much curb and gutter warinty,i will never own another harley road king ,used to be reliable bike but now to many bells and whisies .change is good but if unreliable why change a good thing cable was a good th[Show More]14000 miles same problem,limp throttle shut ignition off and started right up, dealer tells me throttle pins we will look after u asap 10 days ago , service sucks even when it was new ,pretty much curb and gutter warinty,i will never own another harley road king ,used to be reliable bike but now to many bells and whisies .change is good but if unreliable why change a good thing cable was a good thing.now were screwed....more money!!!!!!!!!!
RonJune 10, 2014 at 11:30 pm
I also lost my throttle on a 4 lane highway. The 2010 Ultra was running but had no throttle response and I had to coast off the highway. Thank God I was not hit! It reset after starting it 3 times. I took it to my dealer who said this is a common problem with either the throattle module pin connector or the module itself. Well it is my module a $500+ repair. The real kicker ismy deraler can't get[Show More]I also lost my throttle on a 4 lane highway. The 2010 Ultra was running but had no throttle response and I had to coast off the highway. Thank God I was not hit! It reset after starting it 3 times. I took it to my dealer who said this is a common problem with either the throattle module pin connector or the module itself. Well it is my module a $500+ repair. The real kicker ismy deraler can't get me a knew one from Harley for 10 days because the factory is out of them! If they can't keep them in stock why isn't there a recall? How many riders have to die or get injured before a recall is made?
bobjMay 15, 2014 at 5:04 pm
can i put a cable back on my street glide 010 modle its in the shop now with the trottle stripped for 2 months now i like my bike
TjApril 22, 2014 at 1:15 pm
I own a 2009 road king classic this bike has had troubles right from day one.Spring of 2013 will riding my bike went into limp mode.Took dealer 3 weeks to figure it out.The circuit board fried in the throttle body and the did know why.They checked all wiring ect.The error codes for this or P1511 and P2107.After the repair it ran good I thought maybe every thing well be ok now but this spring april[Show More]I own a 2009 road king classic this bike has had troubles right from day one.Spring of 2013 will riding my bike went into limp mode.Took dealer 3 weeks to figure it out.The circuit board fried in the throttle body and the did know why.They checked all wiring ect.The error codes for this or P1511 and P2107.After the repair it ran good I thought maybe every thing well be ok now but this spring april 20 2014 guess what out for my first ride of the year was ridding for about an hour almost back home and limp mode!! I checked the error codes when i got home and yet again P1511 and P2107. Now its going to cost me more money another new throttle body.I cant trust this bike I don't know what to do with it.Fix it then sell it i guess and lose a pile of money.If i had know about this I would have never bought this Harley ever run BIKE!!
jamie bApril 2, 2014 at 12:55 am
Had the same with a 2011 flhx. Of course it is just out of warranty. In limp mode. will not clear the codes at all. As soon as i start it if it starts check engine light comes on and no throttle. 20000 miles on the bike. 2000 miles on a stage 4 rebuild. bike has been at harley for 3 weeks and they still cant find the problem. They claim to have called the MOCO and tech services but they still have[Show More]Had the same with a 2011 flhx. Of course it is just out of warranty. In limp mode. will not clear the codes at all. As soon as i start it if it starts check engine light comes on and no throttle. 20000 miles on the bike. 2000 miles on a stage 4 rebuild. bike has been at harley for 3 weeks and they still cant find the problem. They claim to have called the MOCO and tech services but they still have no clue whats wrong. What the hell are these codes good for then?? Cant wait to get a 3 week labor bill. And after reading all these threads i dont have faith in my bike and when i do get it back when will it happen again....
Bob R.March 28, 2014 at 7:03 pm
So has anyone actually fixed his problem? Having the same issues with my 09 classic w/39k mi. Replaced the grip sensor, connectors, done the cleaning of the pins and dielectric greased the whole mess. Still shuts down about 3 times a week. Surely someone has fixed it right. Anyone know if we can engineer these back to using throttle cables again?
A. ButchJanuary 1, 2014 at 3:27 am
Have a 2010 Ultra bought new in 4/18/10. First time the throttle went out was10/01/11 with10130 miles. Dealer checked codes and released bike. Cleaned connector.This was in St. Augustine,Fl.2nd time was in Fort Smith, Ar. at dealer on7/05/12, 22798 miles.Replaced twist grip sensor. 3rd. time in St. Augustine, Fl on 4/20/13, 30918 miles. Changed twist grip sensor. 4th time was in Roanoke Rapids, N.[Show More]Have a 2010 Ultra bought new in 4/18/10. First time the throttle went out was10/01/11 with10130 miles. Dealer checked codes and released bike. Cleaned connector.This was in St. Augustine,Fl.2nd time was in Fort Smith, Ar. at dealer on7/05/12, 22798 miles.Replaced twist grip sensor. 3rd. time in St. Augustine, Fl on 4/20/13, 30918 miles. Changed twist grip sensor. 4th time was in Roanoke Rapids, N.C. on 7/30/13, 35783 miles. Replaced sock et terminals. And now the last time was on 12/29/13 with 41349 in St. Augustine, Fl. Have not gone to the dealer yet. all times i was on the rode or highway. luckily all time i was in the outside lane, and just had to move over to the shoulder. I am really getting disgusted with this problem. About ready to get a lawyer. Will stay with a Harley.
BillOctober 19, 2013 at 2:53 pm
I have an 011 flrtu. Nothing but trouble with the TBW. First three times, uncommanded full throttle. Luckily was able to pull in the clutch. The last eight issues were complete loss of throttle, nothing above idle. Dealer has replaced everything but the throttle body. No throttle is worse than full throttle. If you're pulling through in intersection, passing a vehicle etc....and loss throttle, th[Show More]I have an 011 flrtu. Nothing but trouble with the TBW. First three times, uncommanded full throttle. Luckily was able to pull in the clutch. The last eight issues were complete loss of throttle, nothing above idle. Dealer has replaced everything but the throttle body. No throttle is worse than full throttle. If you're pulling through in intersection, passing a vehicle etc....and loss throttle, there is nothing you can except hope the cater behind you is paying attention. The tbw is simply unsafe. My dealer has done all my repairs at no charge. They are replacing the throttle body this week. We will see what happens , but honestly doubt I will ever be able to ride it without wondering what the throttle is going to do next
BruceOctober 11, 2013 at 1:07 am
as you can see by my e-mail I use to ride a KAW but like millions of other people I had to have a Harley. I have a 2009 ultra classic 28000 miles and my throttle has gone in to limp mode more than dozen times. 6 times in 1 day and I almost didn't make it home. I don't have the money to put it in the shop, can someone out there tell me how to fix this problem.
jamesSeptember 2, 2013 at 11:09 pm
I have a 2011 ultra classic cvo throttle started shutting off at 24000 miles has only done this one time. But now with only 34000 miles my engine is blown all scheduled maintenance has been performed on bike. I have heard of three cases of this happening. After looking at all the complaints on screamin eagles why dont they see there is a problem with engine and or harley
MikeAugust 12, 2013 at 6:59 pm
Lets see. You are merging onto the freeway where heavy traffic is running 70 mph. There are several vehicles behind you also entering the freeway. As you are accelerating and moving left into the space between vehicles your bike suddenly and without warning drops down into limp mode. Oh sh%t. Traffic behind you are not even looking at you any more. They are accelerating and looking for a merge op[Show More]Lets see. You are merging onto the freeway where heavy traffic is running 70 mph. There are several vehicles behind you also entering the freeway. As you are accelerating and moving left into the space between vehicles your bike suddenly and without warning drops down into limp mode. Oh sh%t. Traffic behind you are not even looking at you any more. They are accelerating and looking for a merge opportunity. Traffic on the freeway has to slam on their brakes to try and keep from running you over. Unless you are very lucky the traffic also merging just slams into you. How is this not a dangerous situation? How would pulling the clutch lever help? How is an engine suddenly going to idle when pulling out into any kind of traffic not a bad thing? How frequently would it be ok for this to happen to you? Motorcycle riding is exciting but this is not what I had in mind.
MarkAugust 5, 2013 at 10:27 pm
Just bought an 08 Road Glide in November of 2012. Sure wish I had investigated these forums before I bought it. Same shit happening to me now. Throttle went into limp mode on freeway on the way to Arkansas from Texas. I have pulled it all apart and cleaned, greased and prayed over it. Engine light keeps coming on with same codes. Runs hotter than hell also. Installed nightrider xied's for the hea[Show More]Just bought an 08 Road Glide in November of 2012. Sure wish I had investigated these forums before I bought it. Same shit happening to me now. Throttle went into limp mode on freeway on the way to Arkansas from Texas. I have pulled it all apart and cleaned, greased and prayed over it. Engine light keeps coming on with same codes. Runs hotter than hell also. Installed nightrider xied's for the heat. Sure miss my 03 Road King. Newer isn't always better.
alJuly 12, 2013 at 1:24 am
Had smae issue, bike going into "limp mode". Happened 3 times on 90 in NY, bout shut down interstate trying to get over. Found out it was connecot pins in throttle body, the harness hanging right behind air cleaner cover. Unplugged and plgged back in and made it back to Cleveland w no more prob. Had it repinned and is good to go. Dealership admitted they were aware of problem.
JamesJune 14, 2013 at 12:05 am
I own a 2009 Ultra Classic, I bought new. I have had my bike break down 5 times with throttle problems, pins replaced, dielectric grease applied one time and two twist grip position sensors. The throttle goes into limp mode, can't go faster than 25 miles an hour. It happened twice in the middle and fast lane of the PA turnpike and once on I 95 going into philadelphia, talk about being scary when[Show More]I own a 2009 Ultra Classic, I bought new. I have had my bike break down 5 times with throttle problems, pins replaced, dielectric grease applied one time and two twist grip position sensors. The throttle goes into limp mode, can't go faster than 25 miles an hour. It happened twice in the middle and fast lane of the PA turnpike and once on I 95 going into philadelphia, talk about being scary when you have to fight your wayto the shoulder of the highway. This is the last fix, next time I am buying a Kawasaki touring bike or a Victory, I don't trust this bike anymore. I love harleys but something is going wrong lately, quality is going down the tubes. It seems to be their electronics. engine and transmission are ok. Fire your electronics supplier.
daytonhawkMay 5, 2013 at 5:25 am
Would like to give you my two cents.... I purchased a 2011 ultra. Two weeks later Im on the road in the rockies. Thottle went out almost got killed by a semi.. I talked to my harley dealer, he blew me off The next year, I m on my way to Points south.. Stopped in biloxi, miss., throttle went out again.. this time the bike wouldnt start. The harley dealer said they fixed it This year I m on the ro[Show More]Would like to give you my two cents.... I purchased a 2011 ultra. Two weeks later Im on the road in the rockies. Thottle went out almost got killed by a semi.. I talked to my harley dealer, he blew me off The next year, I m on my way to Points south.. Stopped in biloxi, miss., throttle went out again.. this time the bike wouldnt start. The harley dealer said they fixed it This year I m on the road, throttle went out again.. This time, I lost all trust in my bike. Frankly,i loved my harley... dont like the greedy dealerships and Harley corp, who have branded the damn name so well they forgot their customer needs. We need a sound bike at a reasonable price.... My bike msrp was 24500 obviously I didnt pay that price, but damn close. Yesterday, reluctantly I purchased a Victory cross country, thousands less, bigger engine , nice looking bike . I am having harley withdraw but I am in a better place. dont have to worry about the throttle body,ecm, pins or whatever. I have had 5 harleys over the past 13 years and each one had its own problem .. never again
JoeFebruary 5, 2013 at 8:36 am
I own a 1998 Heritage Softail Classic and over the years have lost my throttle on the highway. Very dangerous if your in the middle through lanes trying to coast off to the side of the highway. My bike sits in my garage most of the time. Had it repaired by Harley numerous times and the same problem continues. Harley sucks... Victory here I come.
DennisJanuary 19, 2013 at 4:15 pm
I have 09 ultra and had throttle problems last year two to three times. A couple of times this past summer of 2011 and just today it went into the ETC Power management mode and I was able to crawl home about a mile. I have told local dealer about problem and they said they checked it and did not find anything. I had no idea so many people are having this issue. WoW, for so many to have this is[Show More]I have 09 ultra and had throttle problems last year two to three times. A couple of times this past summer of 2011 and just today it went into the ETC Power management mode and I was able to crawl home about a mile. I have told local dealer about problem and they said they checked it and did not find anything. I had no idea so many people are having this issue. WoW, for so many to have this issue HD is starting to sound like Ford Motor company. They ended up losing a class action lawsuit with their 1999 Windstar van with transmition problems, a chronic issue with one model year van. Sounds Like HD is following suit and choosing to ingnore. I will give them every opportunity to remedy before any lawsuit. Now that I know what happens UNLESS IN HEAVY TRAFFIC IN FAST LANE of I-94 in NW Indiana then your screwed. Unbelieveable!
jimmyOctober 11, 2012 at 1:18 pm
I HAVE A 2008 FLHX THAT HAS LOST THE THROTTLE AT LEAST A 100 HUNDRED TIMES. HAD IT BACK TO DEALER UNDER WARRANTY TWICE IT STILL NOT FIXED OUT OF WARRANTY NOW. i LOVE THIS BIKE BUT CMON THIS IS CRAZY. I OSE THROTTLE ALL THE TIME AT ANY SPEED ANY TIME, SHUT IT OFF RESTART COMES BACK ON MY WAY I HATE IT. HOPE FULLY MY WIFE WILL SUE WHEN IM GONE.
DanAugust 25, 2012 at 12:44 am
I had same problem with throttle limped to harley dealer thinking it might be a fuse or something and they told me it might not happen again but if it does 70 % of the time its the throttle body and it will cost $2000 to repair I have a 2009 Road King after reading comments i guess they are trying to screw me
steveAugust 14, 2012 at 12:13 am
09 cvo road glide.40grand pile of junk. Back to dealer 14 times in 3years. Victory here i come!
TracyJuly 26, 2012 at 4:19 pm
If you know how to drive ,then you must know how to repair the thing that you're driving. Unless you know the basics then you could just repair the thing yourself,but if you don't trust yourself in repairing the mobile then better go to the manufacturing company for they offer services especially if it's still in it's warranty and service period. Like the Nissan ,they offer 1 year free of charge i[Show More]If you know how to drive ,then you must know how to repair the thing that you're driving. Unless you know the basics then you could just repair the thing yourself,but if you don't trust yourself in repairing the mobile then better go to the manufacturing company for they offer services especially if it's still in it's warranty and service period. Like the Nissan ,they offer 1 year free of charge in some of there services. I don't know what Harley has to offer but that'd be the best solution to it.
WarrenJuly 24, 2012 at 8:34 pm
I have also have been haveing the same problem with my 2008 FLXH. I was on I10 when the throttle went out, I was in the #1 lane and had to move to the right side of the highway, as i was moving over a semi-truck was entering causing him to almost hit me. Everytime it heat up the throttle would shut down
DaveJune 1, 2012 at 10:41 pm
Also having throttle problems, mine has gone out 12 times 6 in one day. the 12th time was on freeway and was nearly run by semi-truck! El Cajon Harley Davidson seems to be ignorant to this problem and some of the bikes have more problems than others! Instead bending over backwards to get you screaming deal on a new bike they just want you to start all over with payments on a new one! BULLSHIT!!!!.[Show More]Also having throttle problems, mine has gone out 12 times 6 in one day. the 12th time was on freeway and was nearly run by semi-truck! El Cajon Harley Davidson seems to be ignorant to this problem and some of the bikes have more problems than others! Instead bending over backwards to get you screaming deal on a new bike they just want you to start all over with payments on a new one! BULLSHIT!!!!. How many people have to die or be maimed! Harley has one of the most recognizable logos in the world and they will not stand behind what they sell! I myself do not feel comfortable on my 2009 ultra classic any longer and basiclly wanted them to swap it out and add the sales tax to my loan! The only consession Brett (dealer operator) would make was they he would eat the $1200.00 for the ABS system! By the time he was done bending me over I knew what ABS meant (angry butt sex). I apologize for being graphic but i'm f-ing pissed off.
Animal DamageMay 31, 2012 at 10:21 pm
Hey, enough with the agenda's. Companies provide jobs. Your jobs pay the taxes that provide government servants their pay checks. I love Harley the corporation and Harley the motorcycle. I hit a deer doing 60mph on my 2008 Screaming Eagle Ultra Classic and the bike saved my life. Only $19,957 dollars worth of damage, plus a dead deer. I walked away. In fact, I drove the bashed up machine ho[Show More]Hey, enough with the agenda's. Companies provide jobs. Your jobs pay the taxes that provide government servants their pay checks. I love Harley the corporation and Harley the motorcycle. I hit a deer doing 60mph on my 2008 Screaming Eagle Ultra Classic and the bike saved my life. Only $19,957 dollars worth of damage, plus a dead deer. I walked away. In fact, I drove the bashed up machine home another 125 miles with my blood and deer blood and parts hanging off. I love this bike so much, I plan on buying back the salvage and fixing it up. I don't want to ride anything else. Can I sue the people seeking 10 million for weakening a company that should be spending those resources on improving upon an already great product?
MehakFebruary 28, 2012 at 3:34 am
hey im a ceppohr nut,but the goldwing is a DAMB GOOD machine! mile after mile of problem free riding. Not my style of sled but ya cant knock em!
EdNovember 5, 2011 at 8:16 pm
I had a similar problem with the ETC sticking and not decelerating at a low speed on a hairpin turn.
marianeOctober 1, 2011 at 4:20 am
Harley CEO Keith Wandell made 6.4 Million US Dollars in 2010. In the last 2 years 4 Thousand American HARLEY Employees have LOST their Jobs under Wandels's Closing of American Factories While Relocating NEW HARLEY Factories to BRAZIL SINGAPORE THAILAND INDIA AND CHINA! Besides A FEDERAL CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT IN CALIFORNIA MOVING FWD AGAINST HARLEY MOTORCYCLES SEVERELY BURNING HARLEY OWNERS AUG. 201[Show More]Harley CEO Keith Wandell made 6.4 Million US Dollars in 2010. In the last 2 years 4 Thousand American HARLEY Employees have LOST their Jobs under Wandels's Closing of American Factories While Relocating NEW HARLEY Factories to BRAZIL SINGAPORE THAILAND INDIA AND CHINA! Besides A FEDERAL CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT IN CALIFORNIA MOVING FWD AGAINST HARLEY MOTORCYCLES SEVERELY BURNING HARLEY OWNERS AUG. 2011. Also in 2011, HARLEY STEALS THE MARLON "BRANDO" Name without paying the licensing fee to Brando Estate. Upcoming Court Case 2011 Harley accused of Also STEALING A Clothing Line for Women From AMERICAN ARTIST JACK ARMSTRONG. Armstrong presented the cosmic clothing line to Harley Reps and also created the "COSMIC HARLEY"- V-ROD Motorcycle In 2010. IN 2011 HARLEY ANNOUNCED THEIR NEW LINE OF COMIC CLOTHING WITHOUT ANY MENTION OF ARTIST JACK ARMSTRONG OR HIS DESIGNS. A CORPORATION LIKE HARLEY ACCUSED OF KILLING OWNERS OF THEIR MOTORCYCLES SIMPLY BECAUSE HARLEY WILL NOT ADMIT THE FLAWS IN THEIR PRODUCT. CEO WANDELL'S FIRING OF AMERICAN WORKERS AND MOVING AMERICAN FACTORIES OFFSHORE WHILE RECEIVING MILLIONS IN PAY SAY'S THAT THIS COMPANY IS "OUT OF CONTROL"! HOW CAN HARLEY JUSTIFY THIS CORPORATE BEHAVIOR TO THE AMERICAN PUBLIC AND SHAREHOLDERS. And NOW THIS FIVE BILLION $ Company is STEALING ARTIST'S IDEAS AND USING FAMOUS NAMES, 'THEY DON'T HAVE DEALS WITH'...FIRE THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS AND HARLEY CEO WANDELL. The THOUSANDS OF HARLEY OWNERS INJURED AND FORMER EMPLOYEES FIRED SO HARLEY CAN MOVE OVERSEAS HAS SHOWN AMERICA THE PATTERN OF CORPORATE CULTURE NOW OPERATING AS: "BUSINESS AS USUAL AT HARLEY- DAVIDSON USA".
Rikki "Poison"September 27, 2011 at 6:22 pm
I am also having a throttle loss issue. The first time it happened was during my trip to Key West from the Ft. Lauderdale area and I was scared shitless (9/17/11). I was riding in a pack and the person behind me almost hit me—imagine if it was a semi not paying attention!!! I was doing the speed limit, the motor was still running, and the throttle was gone… It happened twice during this trip[Show More]I am also having a throttle loss issue. The first time it happened was during my trip to Key West from the Ft. Lauderdale area and I was scared shitless (9/17/11). I was riding in a pack and the person behind me almost hit me—imagine if it was a semi not paying attention!!! I was doing the speed limit, the motor was still running, and the throttle was gone… It happened twice during this trip (same day) and I was able to safely pull over to the side of the road but I can’t imagine what could have happened if it was dark, no road lights, and no shoulder. It happened twice again yesterday and I never regained throttle. My bike has been in the shop for two days now and I have to tell that I have lost confidence in this bike. After reading all of the posts, I can’t say that purchasing a new Harley is going to fix it. What is the solution here? Is there no ONE that can identify, isolate, and provide a permanent fix? I am a very disappointed Harley owner…
m d dracSeptember 20, 2011 at 6:45 pm
I have an 09 FLHX that is sitting in my garage that Harley can't fix. They tell me the same about about turning it off 4 times and it will reset. To me it's not worth the risk. The dealers are aware of the issue, but Milwaukee says that they don't know a thing about it. I tried resloving it with Harley first, but now attorney is taking care of it. It would have been a lot cheaper for Harley t[Show More]I have an 09 FLHX that is sitting in my garage that Harley can't fix. They tell me the same about about turning it off 4 times and it will reset. To me it's not worth the risk. The dealers are aware of the issue, but Milwaukee says that they don't know a thing about it. I tried resloving it with Harley first, but now attorney is taking care of it. It would have been a lot cheaper for Harley to get me out of it before my attorney was involved.... but whatever. Now they can pay me and my attorney another 40k. My thoughts and prayers go out to those who have lost a loved one to this issue.
StevenSeptember 7, 2011 at 2:36 pm
I am the third owner of a 2008 flxh street glide and started noticing an eratic idle at @ 12000 miles, and did not think of it much as i was having overheating problems also. At @ 17000 miles my engine service light would come on and i would loose my cruise control function. This happened infrequently and restarting the bike would erase the engine light and my cruise would work. At @ 27000 miles[Show More]I am the third owner of a 2008 flxh street glide and started noticing an eratic idle at @ 12000 miles, and did not think of it much as i was having overheating problems also. At @ 17000 miles my engine service light would come on and i would loose my cruise control function. This happened infrequently and restarting the bike would erase the engine light and my cruise would work. At @ 27000 miles i was getting spikes in my throtle on warm up and starting off in 1st gear. These were light spikes to @ 1500 rpm. but now it has gotten worse and have had spikes up to 3500 rpms All my diagnostic codes were 1510 (throtle actuator-limited performance, 2127 (twist grip sensor Low/open and 2138 twist grip sensor corrilation. I had replaced the twist grip sensor as an attempt to an easy fix but no results. I had checked every connection and greased them all. As a last resort i sent my bike to my local H.D dealer, explaining the situation and codes which they themselves diagnosed and they installed and new ECM for $670.00 and the problem still exists. My other frustration was trying to order a new induction moduel with throtle actuator. This only could be done thru the service dept. after they performed certain tests on my dime? Called H.D. customer service and explained my situation. "Bike is not under warrenty" They gave me a Reference number to give to the H.D. service rep to order me a new unit. I believe it will solve my problem. I did not want to try the pin rebuilding kit.. New induction module @ 220.00. Screaming Eagle @440.00. It's been @ 2 weeks since the paper work was submitted to H.D. It seems the Pins in the induction module get worn from the heat and vibration. Now the bike will spike while riding in third, using @ a quarter throtle @ 35 m.p.h in third gear. I'm not sure if the new unit will fix my problem but i can replace parts as good as H.D. and maybe not as many chasing mysteries. i did not need a new ECM. Happy trails to ya!
ALAugust 9, 2011 at 2:46 am
I have experence my first throttle loss issue today Aug. 08, 2011, and have made arrangement today with Harley-Davidson dealer for diagnostechs tomorrow. Lets see what happens.
mikeApril 12, 2011 at 5:10 pm
bob you think you can stop a desaster while it's striking? you've got your wife your life you think john did'nt try as fast as possible not to do anything he could? GET REAL
ChasMarch 31, 2011 at 8:13 pm
Harley Davidson do not build motorcycles, they build an image and a lifestyle based on the bad boy outlaw. The antique mechanical contraptions they build are low tech, unrelaible, over wieight pieces of overpriced falling apart junk. I amazes me how they have managed to foist off this crap for so many years. I know that Americans are very patriotic and support thier own manufacturers but come on p[Show More]Harley Davidson do not build motorcycles, they build an image and a lifestyle based on the bad boy outlaw. The antique mechanical contraptions they build are low tech, unrelaible, over wieight pieces of overpriced falling apart junk. I amazes me how they have managed to foist off this crap for so many years. I know that Americans are very patriotic and support thier own manufacturers but come on people, most of the current Harley parts come from Japan or Italy these days and you certainly are not getting good value for your money. Harley has become anther faceless corporation chasing profit and their current customers are just fodder for the grist mill.
B rocNovember 9, 2010 at 4:41 pm
Harley has some major issues right now. They denied the "wobbles" caused by their pre 09 frame, then "invented" a new frame, claiming it was so they could build their trikes. The 110 Screamin' eagle motors had and still have major issues with the rear cylinder. The electronic throttle control is just another example. We have our own disagreement going on right now over parts FALLING OFF a Screamin[Show More]Harley has some major issues right now. They denied the "wobbles" caused by their pre 09 frame, then "invented" a new frame, claiming it was so they could build their trikes. The 110 Screamin' eagle motors had and still have major issues with the rear cylinder. The electronic throttle control is just another example. We have our own disagreement going on right now over parts FALLING OFF a Screamin Eagle Ultra, which HD claims is not their fault. (30 grand and pieces BREAK and FALL OFF. We are also looking to sell the SEUC and buy something from a responsible and forthright company, which HD apparently no longer aspires to be. They even refuse to accept responsibility for several deaths.How callous! (although the Chicago Firefighter was finally awarded some money in a recent settlement after time in court) Damn straight, if your gas oven killed your family, or you were poisoned by a food source, you would expect consideration. Pulling in the clutch lever or hitting the kill switch might have saved a life, just as never going over 60 mph might save you from Harley's famous "wobble" but to knowingly ignore a problem that has so much attention and deny claims to those affected is costing HD customers. The reputation is tarnished and rightfully so. They deserve the sudden decline in stock and sales. In this case, they are more at fault than the economy. AND my 49 Pan might have had some problems too, but they were easily fixed, and no one died.
NoneNovember 5, 2010 at 3:27 pm
I also am experiencing the throttle loss issue, it has happened to me 4 times, and the ECM, then the TPSensor then some connector and pins and it is still happening, I was almost hit on two of the occasions by big rigs as I attempted to coast to the side of the freeway from the car pool lane. The dealer, manufacturer knows the issue exsits and continues to return the motorcycle to the owners knowi[Show More]I also am experiencing the throttle loss issue, it has happened to me 4 times, and the ECM, then the TPSensor then some connector and pins and it is still happening, I was almost hit on two of the occasions by big rigs as I attempted to coast to the side of the freeway from the car pool lane. The dealer, manufacturer knows the issue exsits and continues to return the motorcycle to the owners knowing they are guessing as to the resolution. This is where the suit these people have makes sense, I agree if you cant ride and make descisions thats on you, but when the company/dealer returns you bike using you as a test dummy to hope they fixed a problem well that's neglegence. Claiming this person is like the blood sucketrs jumping on the Toyota bandwagon is wrong and Thomas and Bob you are aholes are what's wrong with the world. I also do not promote continues attitides of sue em, but this is not that and if you would pay attention and if you actually ride as you indicate you are so masterful at you would understand this and support them as real bikers or riders are and will do.
BobOctober 4, 2010 at 6:28 pm
Hit the clutch if there is a throttle malfunction... if you don't have the proper reflexes to do this you weren't suited to be operating a motorcycle in the first place.
Big DMay 30, 2010 at 9:14 am
I agree with TATS..If your oven leaked gas and blew up killing your kids u would be crying about how the oven company should pay u 10 million for your loss, but because its Harley at fault all you fucking sheep say its not Harleys fault ect,,Bullshit...Harley has been getting buy on its name for the last 30 years and counting on you mindless Harley sheep to keep them in business, how many bikes do[Show More]I agree with TATS..If your oven leaked gas and blew up killing your kids u would be crying about how the oven company should pay u 10 million for your loss, but because its Harley at fault all you fucking sheep say its not Harleys fault ect,,Bullshit...Harley has been getting buy on its name for the last 30 years and counting on you mindless Harley sheep to keep them in business, how many bikes do these assholes recall year after year, why is every police dept buying Honda and bmw instead of Harley? Cause its a weak product and almost at the end of its rope thanks to Victory and other WELL BUILT BIKES,,
tatsMay 8, 2010 at 5:26 pm
d.thomas, its people like you that should blow it. The person John DeBartolo (Hammer) MY BROTHER was my best friend and now gone. Because he trusted in (well known Harley Davidson) for there products and services, this is not a case of Toyota. His DEATH was caused by a product not tested enough before market you ***. You think that Cindy, his daughter,granchild and mother should not file wrongful [Show More]d.thomas, its people like you that should blow it. The person John DeBartolo (Hammer) MY BROTHER was my best friend and now gone. Because he trusted in (well known Harley Davidson) for there products and services, this is not a case of Toyota. His DEATH was caused by a product not tested enough before market you ***. You think that Cindy, his daughter,granchild and mother should not file wrongful suite. His wife has not only lost her Husband but her health and her house Because of The function and service of the bike and Harley Davidson....He never got to see his first grandchild and now his second. It happend in 2008 and still to this day don't go by without thinking if the F**king people done there job correctly my best friend, my brother would still be alive. It's ignorant people like you that it should have happen to not my brother. Heartless fuck!!!!!!!!!!!
perryApril 10, 2010 at 1:33 pm
being in the auto and cylce repair field, nothing mechanical or electronic is 100% risk free.yes my heart goes out to those ever having misfortune,but letting your guard down on basic safety skills when riding or driving is not always to blame on someone else. there are failsafes to be an option in these situations. plus the fact what other condtions were involved, going to fast,not paying atten[Show More]being in the auto and cylce repair field, nothing mechanical or electronic is 100% risk free.yes my heart goes out to those ever having misfortune,but letting your guard down on basic safety skills when riding or driving is not always to blame on someone else. there are failsafes to be an option in these situations. plus the fact what other condtions were involved, going to fast,not paying attention,no helmet,drinking? HAVE SEEN IT ALL. lets give the motor company and all others a break in this sue happy world!!!!!!
BenMarch 31, 2010 at 12:52 pm
I feel for anyone losing a loved one. I also own a 2008 ultra classic and I have had my Harley back to the dealer 3 times for faulty throttle. I wish Harley had stayed with the cable system. The only way I can keep way to keep my throttle from malfuntioning, is not to use my cruse on my bike. I have owned several Harleys, and the throttle is a big diapointment. I will own Harleys as long as they a[Show More]I feel for anyone losing a loved one. I also own a 2008 ultra classic and I have had my Harley back to the dealer 3 times for faulty throttle. I wish Harley had stayed with the cable system. The only way I can keep way to keep my throttle from malfuntioning, is not to use my cruse on my bike. I have owned several Harleys, and the throttle is a big diapointment. I will own Harleys as long as they are american owned.
danMarch 27, 2010 at 4:43 pm
This is my opinion: It's the riders responsibility to know what to do in an emergency situation. Anything mechanical can fail at any time. It's a risk everyone is responsible to take. There is nothing perfect in this world. The only thing Harley Davidson is at fault for is employing human beings and manufacturing machines. These people must be Toyota owners, too.
d thomasMarch 25, 2010 at 11:59 pm
Are you kidding..the crazies are coming out of the weeds. First Toyota now Harley-Davidson. I am sure all you blood suckers will jump on this!
warrenMarch 25, 2010 at 7:58 pm
keep it simple, throttle cables have been around for a hundred years or so. with little maintence they work just fine. personally i like the dual cable system, its hard to beat. i wonder why the rider with the throttle malfunction didn"t use the kill switch when he had problems? god bless him.